Help talk:Shared Help
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There should be the ability to wrap the contents of the help within a div or something so that we can put stuff like navigation templates and other wiki specific formatting around this templated help. Having a navigation bar under the shared help - for instance - isn't very helpful if it doesn't match the formatting of other pages with navigation bars. — Morder 16:48, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
Maybe something like <mainpage-rightcolumn-start /> but <shared-help-contents /> and if that tag doesn't exist then force it on top. — Morder 16:54, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
- At the moment we're trying to keep it as simple as possible - but that does sound like quite an interesting idea. Kirkburn (talk)
23:19, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks - I'll keep checking. — Morder 20:00, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- This would also be useful for putting the wiki-specific help first. As alternatives to that article-level solution, the shared content could be collapsible (a user-level solution) or communities could be allowed to tentatively opt out of sharing the content (a wiki-level solution). Additionally, maybe a user preference could be added which could default the shared content to hidden (see second alternative above)? I think I'll find those huge sections that push the real content down annoying. --Jesdisciple (talk) 22:00, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Shared Help
Would it be possible if the shared help be turned off on the Rome - Total War (Wiki) I've transferred a lot of the Help:Content pages to the site, and feel that the shared help is no longer necessary, some of the shared help mentioned on the list seems irrelevant. Dark Obsidian 19:40, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
- The idea of shared help is not to have to carry those pages over with new content and updates being made as needed. Why transfer them if Shared Help allows them to exist independently? --Charitwo (talk) 19:46, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
- That I am aware of, but a lot users (including) me will find the "shared help" annoying especially since the site has now got a local page of the same content: I am aware that it may be possible for disabling the shared help since it's not showing on most wiki's and I wouldn't mind asking if it's possible to have it disabled? Dark Obsidian 19:56, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
- But that doesn't make sense? You only just transferred the pages, and I'm not sure why. I can still disable it, but I'm interested as to your reasonings, in case it's something we can help with.
- Help:Shared Help does still allow you to do custom content - it just shows below the shared help. You can also categorize such pages, so it's easier for users to find the "custom" content. Kirkburn (talk) 11:24, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
- The shared help is no longer necessary as the site now has it's local material: which can be updated depending on how large the community gets. Please have the shared help disabled, if there's any page's missing I'll transfer it manually. Dark Obsidian 20:07, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
- I can't know if this is correct, but I get the impression that Dark dislikes the non-editable nature of the shared pages. At least that problem fits his solution. --Jesdisciple (talk) 21:37, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
- That's partially true, but not all true: Each wiki should contain it's own Help materials regardless if the "shared help" being active, wikia should have an option in the MediaWiki namespace so that the shared help could be turned on or off on that particular site, since there isn't an option available to turn it off manually I'm asking here on the Main article if it could be turned off. Dark Obsidian 13:05, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you. Dark Obsidian 13:09, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Local existence of a shared help page
One of the open issues is: "Shared Help pages appear in Special:Wantedpages if you link to them (unless you create the page on the local wiki as well)." If I got it right from the description, it sounds like for a wiki the shared help page does not really exist, unless you create it also locally. Does this also mean ...
- ... that a local link to a locally not existing shared help page is colored red and not blue?
- ... that a shared help page will not appear in the local Category:Help unless you create the page locally and categorize it on your own?
- ... that a shared help page will not appear in the local Special:AllPages with selection for namespace "Help", unless you create the page locally?
- ... that a shared help page will never appear on any other local special page, like for example Special:UncategorizedPages or Special:AncientPages, unless you create the page locally?
--Justme2 12:09, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
- In order:
- The links will still be blue.
- Yes.
- Yes.
- Yes.
- This isn't perfect of course, and is something we'll be working on. We feel it's better than not having any help at all (or old, out of date help) on various wikis, but the easiest way of working around the issues is to use Help:Contents as the main point of entry. Kirkburn (talk) 13:13, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks for the answers! --Justme2 11:32, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Shared Help on Nonciclopedia
Hi to all, i'm a Nonciclopedian Admin (the italian sister of Uncyclopedia). I would to ask if it's possible to switch-off the shared help in our wiki, because they are useless for us and the reasons are simple:
- the italian language :)
- our help pages are "particular", for both arguments and humorous style
Thanks! --Zaza 19:34, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Enraged
Hello. I notice that the apprentice wiki is horrifically out of date and that there have been no edits since 7th May 2009.--Launchballer 17:03, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
- As it's up to the readers to update it, why not help out? :) Kirkburn (talk) 15:50, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I'm busy elsewhere. I'll pop in whenever I can.--Launchballer 17:14, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
